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TOWNSHIP OF MAHWAH
WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES
THURSDAY, APRIL 21, 2005

The meeting was called to order at 8:03PM by Council President Richter who read the Open Public Meetings Act Statement as prescribed by law. Notice was advertised in The Record on July 6, 2004 and August 16, 2004 stating this meeting would be held in the Municipal Offices, 475 Corporate Drive, Mahwah, New Jersey on Thursday, April 21, 2005 at 8:00PM.

Notice of this meeting is posted on the Municipal Bulletin Board. The minutes of this meeting shall be available in the Municipal Clerk’s Office.

Salute to the Flag.

Present: Councilmembers Alderisio, Calandrillo, DiGiulio, Kelly, Paton, Richter and Roth.

Also present were Mayor Richard J. Martel, Business Administrator Brian Campion, Township Attorney Menelaos W. Toskos, Township Engineer Kevin Boswell, Township Engineer’s Associate Mike Kelly, Township Utility Engineer Justin Mahon and Deputy Municipal Clerk Mary C. Ross.

PUBLIC PORTION
On a motion by Calandrillo, seconded by Paton, the meeting was opened to the public at 8:08PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

Mr. Allan Kidd of 111 Miller Road was happy to see that there was a working microphone at the Work Session Meeting tonight.

Mr. Kidd complained that the lights are often left on at the Township Recreation Fields.

Mr. Kidd asked if the Capital Portion of the Budget was discussed in its entirety. Richter stated as far as she knew it was discussed; however, some items had not come to a resolution.

Mr. Kidd asked which plan the Township was going with for the Proposed Police Station Addition. Richter stated the Intermediate Plan.

Mr. Kidd asked why $956,000.00 was borrowed last year for the Proposed Police Addition, and why the Township had left it dormant for so long in the bank. Richter stated the monies were appropriated in anticipation of the Proposed Police Addition being built.

Mr. Albert Kidd of 851 Darlington Avenue pointed out that Councilmembers Alderisio, Calandrillo, DiGiulio and Kelly were at fault for the 26 percent tax hike the Township is about to incur.

Mr. Kidd was happy to see that the Township Salt Piles were finally covered.

Mr. Kidd stated Administration is not running the Township properly.

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Mr. Kidd asked for Administration to please contact him concerning how much rent the Township was collecting for the Township property on East Ramapo Avenue. Mr. Kidd stated he had asked numerous times and he would like an answer.

Mr. Kidd asked when the Township would finally amend the Outside Sales Ordinance. The Township Attorney stated it was not amended as of yet.

Ms. Gail Cop of 1 Crocker Mansion Drive requested consideration on the Fike Road Duplex Project for speed in the area of her home and the possible rezoning of this area. She would rather have a Cul-De-Sac from Route 202 to Fike Road to Route 202 rather then opening into Seminary Drive. Richter asked Ms. Cop to bring this request to the Planning Board.

Mr. Walter Kress of 27 Thunderhead Place asked Council to have the Township Engineer address the issue of very low water pressure in the area of Thunderhead Place. Mr. Kress stated he has been waiting for this issue to be addressed for the past 9 months. Richter stated this is on the agenda for this evening.

Mr. Allan Kidd of 111 Miller Road suggested taking the $956,000.00 was borrowed last year for the Proposed Police Addition and applying it to the Budget in order to lower taxes. Mr. Kidd stated the Township Police could manage in their present building for a few more years.

On a motion by DiGiulio, seconded by Kelly, the meeting was closed to the public at 8:28PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

SUBMISSION OF BILLS AND CLAIMS
Any Councilmember with questions on the Bills and Claims was asked to contact Administration prior to the Public Meeting.

ORDINANCE – PUBLIC HEARING
#1509: C.O.L.A./Cap Bank Ordinance
On a motion by Calandrillo, seconded by Kelly, the Public Hearing on Ordinance #1509 was carried to April 28, 2005. All in favor. Motion carried.

RESOLUTION
See Resolutions #095-05 and #096-05, attached to and made part of these Meeting Minutes.

ENGINEERING (Boswell-McClave)
1a. Drainage Improvement; 85 Malcolm Road; Authorization of Services
The Township Engineer stated with regards to the Proposal submitted for Council’s perusal on
Drainage Improvement; 85 Malcolm Road that they were seeking Council to authorize services
on this project.

Kelly asked for the approximate start and end date of this project. The Township Engineer stated
the survey will take one week, the Preliminary Plan will take 2 weeks, it will take 6 weeks to go
out to bid, 4 weeks to award the bid, and it will be completed 30 days after this.
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Alderisio wanted to be assured this job would be completed with no problems from the residents.

Roth asked what if Council exercised “Eminent Domain” and went with the $15,000.00 option. The Township Engineer stated it may be a benefit and the Township could save $17,000.00; however, the Township could also be paying for some expensive easements. Roth asked for more information on this possibility. The Township Engineer stated he would provide answers on this for next weeks meeting.

Paton asked about the rise in the driveway and if it was a large rock. Paton asked if it would be blasted or chipped in the removal process. The Township Engineer stated there will be tests and borings conducted to find the alignment.

Kelly stated the Cragmere Area of the Township should be looked at as a whole and the Township should avoid “spot fixes”. The Township Engineer concurred.

DiGiulio brought up the water run off from Armor Road. The Township Engineer stated even if they use Option A with regards to 85 Malcolm Road there are still problems with springs in the immediate areas surrounding Malcolm Road.

Calandrillo also cautioned the Township Engineer not to execute a “Band-Aid” solution. The Township Engineer stated he would not.

On a motion by Calandrillo, seconded by Roth, the meeting was open at 8:49PM to Ms. Karen Stoohs, the homeowner of 85 Malcolm Road, for 5 minutes. All in favor. Motion carried.

Ms. Karen Stoohs asked Council to please rectify the drainage problem at her home, and to find the “root of the problem”, so the problem will be fixed correctly. Ms. Stoohs stated she was willing to take care of the rest of her water damage problems.

On a motion by Paton, seconded by Kelly, the meeting was closed to the public at 8:52PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

1b. Forest Road/Wyckoff Avenue Intersection Project; Update
The Township Engineer stated the easement issues with Mr. Shotmeyer are resolved and there are no outstanding issues, or additional monies required.

The Township Engineer stated the Water Main on Wyckoff Avenue has been completed and the system is being tested, and the project is on schedule.

Roth asked for a report to be given each week on the progress of Continental Soldiers Park Field.

DiGiulio asked for more signage for the businesses in the Wyckoff Avenue area. The Township Engineer’s Associate stated he would coordinate with the Business Owners if they wished to put up signage.

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The Township Engineer stated he spoke to Mr. Patel who owns the Delicatessen at the corner of Wyckoff Avenue and Forest Road many times with regards to signage and easement issues. The Township Engineer stated he would coordinate with Mr. Patel if he wished to put up signage.

The Township Engineer stated he took a Topographical Picture of the field at Continental Soldiers Park.

The Business Administrator stated the work that was done last year to improve this field satisfied the problem; however, there are a few areas that need a little more clay. This work will be done next week.

1c. Verbal Status Report
DiGiulio asked about Willowbank Court. The Township Engineer’s Associate stated the Township Department of Public Works will be marking out the areas that need to be cleared.

DiGiulio asked the Township Engineer if he had the information on the Bus Stop ready with regards to Veteran’s Park. The Township Engineer said yes, and it is ready for distribution.

Calandrillo asked for a Progress Report on the Department of Transportation Punch List to include the checking of a fence by Avenue A. Calandrillo did not know if this fence was owned by a private business, or the Department of Transportation. Calandrillo asked the Township Engineer to find out if the fence belonged to the Department of Transportation, and if so to have them repair it. The Township Engineer’s Associate will get back to Council on these items.

Paton asked for an update on the Hilltop Interchange and Traffic Light. The Township Engineer’s Associate stated all easements were submitted to the County for review and approval. The Township Engineer’s Associate expects to hear from the County shortly on this.

UTILITY ENGINEER (Malcolm Pirnie)
2a. Thunderhead Place Water Pressure; Discussion
The Township Utility Engineer gave Council an overview about how a Booster Station will improve the Water Pressure Issues in the Thunderhead Place section of the Township. The Township Utility Engineer also discussed the possibility of faulty valves, pipes, or the Water Main in the Thunderhead Place section of the Township.

Roth stated this problem is also in the Cragmere Section, not just the Thunderhead Place Section of the Township. Roth questioned the possibility of spending $800,000.00 to find a solution to a job, in his opinion, that was not done correctly.

Paton asked who was in charge of the survey, and when will the results be published. The Township Utility Engineer stated Council agreed to assist at the last meeting through the Municipal Clerk’s Office.

Paton asked who was responsible for the Engineering Assessment. The Township Utility Engineer said Malcolm Pirnie.

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On a motion by Paton, seconded by Roth, the meeting was opened to the public at 9:41PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

The Township Engineer gave a historical overview of how the $800,000.00 was utilized from 1999 to present for the work on Faulty Water Mains and Pressure Problems in the Cragmere Section of the Township.

Paton asked if the Dirty Water was safe for the residents. The Township Engineer stated the problem is Iron in the Water. The Township Engineer stated in a memorandum dated April 7, 2005 there was a price of $650,000.00 given for pipe replacement due to the erosion of iron in the present Water Main. The Township Engineer stated it may be possible to clean the pipe in its present position and line it with cement at a lower cost.

Calandrillo stated she did not understand why the Township should have to spend more money on a project that should have been engineered properly in the first place.

Richter stated she had brought up the possibility of problems with the Water Lines going from the street to the house in the Thunderhead Area. Richter stated some members of Council at the time were not in agreement with regards to these probabilities.

Richter asked how much it would cost to go to the Homeowners and check the readings on their meters in order to correct the underlying problems. The Township Utility Engineer stated he would look into this.

Kelly concurred with Roth’s comments about the $800,000.00, as the Thunderhead Area should have been included in this. Kelly stated the residents need to have water and this problem needed to be rectified.

DiGiulio stated there is a lot of talk about a problem that is not being solved. DiGiulio stated the Residents need water, and Council needs concrete answers from the Township Utility Engineer in order for Council to act upon this and bring it to an end.

Roth asked the Township Utility Engineer to go out and take the technical measurements, identify the problem, and get this issue off the table without submitting a bill to the Township for the work.

Richter stated Council as a whole needed to come to an agreement about this issue.

On a motion by Paton, seconded by Roth, the meeting was open to the public for five minutes at 9:41PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

Mr. Walter Kress of 27 Thunderhead Place gave a brief history of the piping issues in the Thunderhead Place area. Mr. Kress stated when Hovnanian tied in the Water Main at 27 Arrow Head Place through an easement the Water Pressure dropped measurably and has never been the

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same since.

Mr. Kress is suspect of some of the Water Pressure Measurements that have been taken recently.

On a motion by Calandrillo, seconded by Kelly, the meeting was closed to the public at 9:44PM. All in favor. Motion carried.

The Township Engineer stated he would discuss this with the Administration in his office and get back to Council with more concrete answers.

The Township Engineer explained to Council how the Water Pressure Measurements would be taken in the Thunderhead Area.

Kelly asked if the Township Water Department was assisting with testing. The Business Administrator said yes.

Richter stated this work should have been done a long time ago by the Township Utility Engineer, and she suggested for the Township Utility Engineer to do this work at no cost to the Township.

2b. East Slope Reservoir Rehabilitation.; Change Order
The Business Administrator stated this project needed to be extended until the 25th of May due to weather related issues that affect the ability to paint the exterior of the tank.

Resolution shall be prepared for the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

2c. Oral Report
The Township Utility Engineer stated the contractor for the Swim Club is being monitored very closely in order to have him remain on schedule.

LEGAL
3a. Ordinance Prohibiting Sexually Oriented Businesses; Continuation of Discussion
Roth asked how an Ordinance such as this could be expanded. The Township Attorney stated while prohibition would be unconstitutional the obscene can be addressed.

Kelly suggested adding more restrictive words.

Paton stated the Mayor suggested the Township may have problems with Video Stores that wish to sell obscene materials.

Calandrillo suggested looking at Saddle Brook’s Ordinance and meeting somewhere in the middle.


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3b. Meadow Avenue; Traffic Controls
Council asked the Municipal Clerk to notify the resident in the Meadow Avenue Area by letter about the No-Left-Turn in the pending Ordinance.

ADMINISTRATION
4a. Police Headquarters Renovation Project; Discussion
The Business Administrator gave an overview on the Police Headquarters Renovation Project and the Report that was distributed addressing the Intermediate Project.

Roth stated when considering the cost of this project all aspects of the site work must be taken under consideration, not just the building structure.

Roth asked the Township Attorney if Council can approach the Prosecutor about the full price of the site improvements. The Business Administrator stated he has approached the Prosecutor, and he is comfortable with that.

Roth asked if Council decided to move forward with this project it will result in an approval to Bond the finances for the project, and not authorization for the work to be done. The Business Administrator stated this process will go from putting the $1.2 in the 2005 Budget, approving a Resolution to agree to do business with the Architect, and when the Architect is finished going out to Bid.

Roth stated a proposal has been made to remove $350,000.00 from the Police Department’s Seized Funds account in order to lower the Tax Payer’s burden for the Proposed Police Department Addition. Roth asked for an update on this proposal and Chief Batelli’s opinion on this proposal. The Business Administrator stated a formal letter from Chief Batelli and the County Prosecutor would be necessary before moving forward with this proposal. Chief Batelli stated he would not write a letter requesting an additional $350,000.00, as he does not feel it would meet the requirements of “Law Enforcement Purposes”. Roth did not share Chief Batelli’s view on this matter, citing the Police Department Addition is for “Law Enforcement Purposes”. Chief Batelli stated the Police Department would do their best to remain within the Budget. The Business Administrator voiced concern over the verification of figures in the Report by the Architect, as the Report is a year old, and prices have most likely increased by 5%.

Richter stated originally funds for the Police Department Addition were approved at $900,000.00. Richter stated at this point in time, things have changed and this is a new project. Chief Batelli stated the Police Department has honored the original $900,000.00 Council agreed to put towards the Police Department Addition, and they have not asked for an increase; rather, they have supplied the additional monies required by way of the $1.2 Million Dollars in Seized Funds.

Kelly stated there are areas in the current Police Department Building that are in need of repair. Kelly asked Chief Batelli to clarify what these needs are, and where the $900,000.00 already allotted for this project would be most appropriately used. Chief Batelli stated the roof, necessary American Disability Act upgrades, ventilation system, a new electrical panel, and
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necessary Seismic Improvements.

Richter questioned the Police Departments lack of informing Council of all the problems with the building in a more timely fashion. Richter stated there was a choice with upgrading Fire Company No. 1, or the Police Department and had Council been made aware of all these issues it may have altered the Council’s decision to start the Fire Company No. 1 Project first. Richter said the Police Department stated Fire Company No. 1 had a greater need for the project, and in light of the building issues Chief Batelli is raising now, she is confused.

Calandrillo stated the Police Department had stated that they did not need their project started first when the Police and Fire Company No. 1 Building Projects were originally being discussed because the Fire Department had equipment coming in the Police Department was willing to wait one year.

Alderisio concurred with Chief Batelli and objected to the $300,000.00 increase request of Seized Funds for the Police Department Addition Project.

Paton questioned the Chief’s ascertation that he could reduce next year’s Police Department operating Budget by 25% by utilizing the Seized Funds. According to Paton, the guidelines for using seized funds would not allow this. Chief Batelli disagreed. Paton asked for a written Legal Opinion from the Township Attorney with regards to this.

Paton asked for information on what the Police Department Addition Project would cost in its entirety.

Paton asked for information on what exactly would the site improvements include for the Police Department Addition Project.

Paton asked how much the Clerk of the Works, and additional “extra” charges that may not be seen in the original proposal would cost for this project. The Business Administrator said he would get back to Paton on this.

DiGiulio asked Chief Batelli if he would be willing to go back to the Prosecutor for money from the Seized Funds if there was a Change Order issued for the Project. Chief Batelli said if the Change Order was for “Law Enforcement Purposes”.

DiGiulio stated Council needed to decide whether or not they will go ahead with this project since Council had voted on going ahead with the Police Department Addition Project.

Richter maintained that this project was never voted on, and that Council only heard a presentation on the project this past September. On November 11, 2004 Richter stated she spoke to the Chief with effort to advance movement on this project and, in order to do this, suggested for the Chief to revise the Intermediate Option for the Building Project. Richter disagreed with DiGiulio with regard to Council voting on moving forward with the Police Department Addition.

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The Business Administrator suggested the following prior to movement on the Police Department Addition Project:
• Adopt the 2005 Municipal Budget.
• Hire an Architect in June, 2005.
• Begin construction in June, 2006.

Alderisio stated using another Architect would be a bad move and would cost the Township financially and further impede this project.

Roth stated this project would cost the Township $2,467,850.00. Roth stated he would not be pushed into this project due to impatience of others, and that it was important to take the time necessary to do the project properly. Roth was disappointed in the answers he has received tonight with regard to the additional $350,000.00 requested for the project, and felt more cooperation was needed from Chief Batelli. Chief Batelli took this as an insult. Chief Batelli further stated he had wished to talk about the Police Department Addition Project with Council during a previous Closed Session; however, the Chief and Architect were informed that they were not invited to that session. Richter stated she was unaware of this, stated it was her impression that Council could not directly approach the Chief, and Richter apologized to the Chief for any misunderstanding with regard to this meeting. Richter also stated Council was not made aware that the Chief would be present tonight.

Calandrillo asked why the Chief and Architect were not invited to the Closed Session Chief Batelli had referred to. Calandrillo stated she was discouraged with the diplomacy being used with regards to the Police Department Addition.

Calandrillo left at 11:23PM.

Richter and Kelly concurred that the Police Department Addition should be placed on a future Agenda for a vote.

Kelly thanked Chief Batelli for attending this evening’s meeting.

Richter was dismayed by anyone who might believe she was against the Police Department Addition Project. Richter maintained she had supported this project when it was first proposed, and stressed that Council’s agreeing on a figure for this project is regrettably problematic.

Richter left at 11:30PM.
Kelly took the Chair.

4b. Mayor’s Proclamations
1. Municipal Clerk’s Week: May 1 through May 7, 2005
2. Myasthenia Gravis Awareness Month: June 2005
3. Eagle Scout; Andrew Geronimo
4. Eagle Scout; John Gaut
Mayor Martel shall read the above four Proclamations at the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

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4c. Request to Sell Property to Township; Block 5, Lot 5; Oak Road
Council concurred not to sell the property. Business Administrator shall write letter to Property Owner.

4d. Agreement; Voluntary Municipal Support of Mental Health Services and Employee
Assistance Program; West Bergen Mental Healthcare
Resolution shall be prepared for the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

4e. Agreement; Child and Adolescent Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services; West Bergen Mental Healthcare
Resolution shall be prepared for the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

4f. Open Space Recreation Plan; Amendment
Council concurred to discuss this further after receiving a letter from the Township Attorney with regard to the Open Space Recreation Plan Amendment.

4g. Authorization to Award Bid #MTB-05-07: Municipal Building Cleaning Service
Resolution shall be prepared for the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

4h. Sale of Property; Block 3, Lot 26
Council concurred to have the Township Attorney review this matter prior to further discussion.

4i. Grant Application; Ramapo River TMDL Study
The Business Administrator gave a brief overview of the proposal for a Grant Application for the Ramapo River TMDL Study.

Roth asked what the Grant Preparation would cost the Township. The Business Administrator stated the Grant would cover the cost of the QEA Study.

On a motion by DiGiulio, seconded by Roth, the meeting was open to the public at 11:44PM for the express purpose of discussing the Grant Application for the Ramapo River TMDL Study.

Mr. Mark Meyers of 7 Willow Bank Court stated he was the representative for Quantitative Environmental Analysis. Mr. Meyers maintained his costs would be covered by the Grant. Mr. Meyers stated the study is to identify using the waters in the Township and sources of impairments such as stream buffers, manure controls, and stream restoration.

Paton asked if this would provide a baseline of the river and what the pollutants are. Mr. Meyers said yes.

DiGiulio asked who would receive the results. Mr. Meyers said the Report will be transmitted to the Department of Environmental Protection with a copy going to the Township. The Report would recommend specific strategies which would be discussed with the Business Administrator.

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Kelly stressed that the Township is on the border of New York State and we need to be cautious concerning ramifications that may arise due to the close proximity. Mr. Meyers said the Department of Environmental Protection is aware of the close proximity of the Township and
New York State.

Roth cautioned Council that there was an outside possibility that the Township may be liable for a portion of $300,000.00 for a possible 2nd phase.

On a motion by DiGiulio, seconded by Roth, Council agreed to move ahead with the Grant Application for the Ramapo River TMDL Study. Roll Call Vote: Alderisio, yes; Calandrillo, absent; DiGiulio, yes; Kelly, yes; Paton, yes; Richter, absent; Roth, yes. Motion passes.

TOWNSHIP COUNCIL and MUNICIPAL CLERK
5a. Rezoning Request; R-40 to PRD-6
Roth cautioned that this might appear to be “spot zoning”.

It was decided by Council that more input was necessary from the Township Planner before considering this request.

5b. Person-to-Person Transfer of Liquor License; Ramapo Centre Liquor Associates to
Mr. Carl Carfello
The Deputy Municipal Clerk was asked to make sure all members of the Council were copied on the paperwork regarding this Liquor License Transfer.

5c. Raffle Applications
1. HSO Mahwah Lenape Meadows (On Premise)
2. HSO Mahwah Lenape Meadows (On Premise, 50/50)
Raffle Applications were tentatively approved. Final approval shall be voted on at the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

5d. Budget; Discussion
Item carried to the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

5e. Increase of Mileage Reimbursement
Item carried.

5f. Eagle Scouts
1. Andrew Geronimo
2. John Gaut
Resolutions shall be prepared for the April 28, 2005 Public Meeting.

CLOSED SESSION
Council did not go into Closed Session for purpose of discussing Blue Collar Collective Bargaining Unit; Discussion. Item was carried.

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Respectfully submitted,



Kathrine G. Coletta, RMC/CMC
Municipal Clerk

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