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MAHWAH HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION (MHPC)

December 11, 2003 minutes

The meeting was called to order at 7:38 p.m.

SUNSHINE STATEMENT: The secretary read the Sunshine Statement

ROLL CALL

PRESENT ABSENT
Marthajean Drago, Chair Mark Nichols
John Bristow, Historian J. Thomas Thornton
Kenneth Cerullo Barbara Shanley
Carol Greene Paul Gioni
Colleen Kennedy
Gus Vasiliadis (late)

FLAG SALUTE:

PUBLIC SESSION:

John Bristow made a motion to open the Public Session and Colleen Kennedy seconded the motion. All approved. Public Session was opened at 7:46 p.m.

The Chair recognized Robert Howarth representing Apple Montessori School at 75 E. Ramapo Avenue and Fred Platt, the project engineer. Mr. Platt reported that the owners have addressed the MHPC three concerns regarding this property.
1. The curb radius was increased to 40’.
2. The two Black Locust Trees where saved due to the curb radius increase.
3. Two parking spaces were eliminated to accommodate the Black Locust Trees.
Mr. Platt also stated that the stone wall facing E. Ramapo Avenue will remain.

The Commission thanked Mr. Howarth and Mr. Platt for complying to the Commission’s recommendations.

The Chair recognized Mr. Richard Greene, representing the owners of Sun Valley Farm, Ramapo 800 Valley Road, Mahwah read a prepared statement regarding the Vista Bahn application (see attached).

Mrs. Greene, stated that as co-owner of 800 Valley Road, Mahwah she must recuse herself at 7:55 p.m. and removed herself from the Commission table at 7:55 p.m.and sat with the public.

Mr. Cerullo stated that for the record he did not agree with Mr. Greene’s evaluation of the Winter farm house’s demolition status and stated that he felt that the house should remain because it does have historic significance as the original tenant farm house, which has been well maintained over the years.

Mrs. Drago asked Mr. Greene if he had any further comments. Mr. Greene stated that he did not have a problem with including the Winter tenant farm house in the list of historic sites to remain.

The Commission thanked Mr. Greene for his comments.

Mr. Cerullo made a motion to close the Public Session and Mr. Bristow seconded the motion. All approved. The Public Session was closed at 8:22 p.m.

Mrs. Greene returned to the Commission table.

MINUTES:

Mr. Bristow made a motion to approve the October 9, 2003 minutes as read and Ms. Kennedy seconded the motion. All approved.

Mrs. Greene made a motion to approve the November 13, 2003 minutes as read and Mr. Cerullo seconded the motion. All approved.

CHAIR’S REPORT: No report as this time.

ATTORNEY: Mrs. DeScherer was not present, no report at this time.

TECHINCAL ADVISOR: Mr. Wayne McCabe, PP/AICP and Ms. Jeanne Kolva.

KKTT Restaurant, Docket 459: Mr. McCabe reported that the owners of Nobody’s Inn did not contact him regarding the cement plank siding as agreed at the November 13, 2003 MHPC meeting. Mrs. Drago will call the MHPC Attorney, Mrs. DeScherer, for advice on what recourse the MHPC has for enforcement of the agreed MHPC recommendations.

Vista Bahn Estates, LLC, Docket 461. Since Mrs. Greene is one of the owners of the adjacent property, she recused herself, left the Commission table and sat with the public.

Mr. McCabe reported that the set of plans that the Planning Board sent to the Commission on October 9, 2003 had no revision date on it and there was no call for the removal of the farm house, only for the barn. Yet after the MHPC looked at the revised plans and recommended that the farm house and the barn remain, the applicant’s attorney Mr. Whitaker, asked that the MHPC table this application until the December meeting because the applicant was in the process of revising the plans. As promised by Mr. Whitaker, Mr. McCabe did receive a complete set of the revised plans; however, the MHPC’s recommendations were completely ignored. In fact, the Winter house and the barn were slated to be removed. Mr. McCabe will contact Planning Board Officer, Mara Winokur, as to the Planning Board format and the MHPC recommendations. Mr. McCabe will also consult with Mrs. DeScherer prior to the Planning Board meeting. Mrs. Drago will also attend the Planning Board meeting. In order to assure that the Township Planner is kept up to date on the MHPC’s recommendations for Docket #461, Mr. McCabe will add the Township Planner, Burgis Associates, to his application recommendation list.

Mr. Cerullo emphasized the importance of a MHPC representative at the Planning Board meeting to explain the MHPC’s comments on applications that have been reviewed by the MHPC.

Let the minutes reflect that Mr. Cerullo made a motion to appoint Mr. McCabe as the official representative of the MHPC and authorize Mr. McCabe as Technical Advisor to testify for the MHPC issues pertaining to Docket 461 and Mr. Vasiliadis seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 5 yes, 0 no, and 1 recused.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes

APPLICATIONS:
Vista Bahn, Docket 461: Let the minutes reflect that based on the demolition of the historic sites, which are listed on the Bergen County Historic Sites Survey, and the disregard of the MHPC recommendations, Mr. Cerullo made a motion to deny approval of Vista Bahn, Docket 461 and Mr. Bristow seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 5 yes 0 no and 1 recuse.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes

At this time, 9:00 p.m., Mrs. Greene came back to the Commission table.

Hawk Nest, Docket 443A
Let the minutes reflect that after reviewing the application and Mrs. Kolva’s recommendation to approve this application with no comment, due to the fact that it has no historic significance, Ms. Kennedy made a motion to approve Docket 443A with no comment and Mr. Vasiliadis seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 6 yes 0 no.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes: Greene, yes

Woodcliff Lake Docket 455
Let the minutes reflect that after reviewing the application and Mr. McCabe’s recommendation to approve this application stating the same comments regarding the plantings, Mr. Bristow made a motion to approve this application with the same comments as previously stated and Mrs. Greene seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 6 yes and 0 no.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes: Greene, yes

Michael Devine Docket 464
Let the minutes reflect that after reviewing the application and Mrs. Kolva recommendation to approve this application because it has no historic significance, Ms. Kennedy made a motion to approve this application with no comments and Mr. Vasiliadis seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 6 yes and 0 no.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes: Greene, yes

DEMOLITION APPLICATIONS: The secretary reported that as agreed at the November 13, 2003 meeting, the demolition application for 111 Christie Avenue was approved as per Mr. McCabes recommendation and returned to the Construction Official.

OLD BUSINESS
Planning Board Report: Mrs. Drago reported that she was not able to attend the December 1, 2003 Planning Board meeting.

Mr. Cerullo made a motion that any member of the MHPC who attends a Planning Board meeting has the authority to represent the MHP’s opinions in regards to the applications that have been presented to the Commission as long as they have participated in the Commissions discussions and have not been excluded in the discussions regarding the application/s and Mrs. Greene seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 6 yes and 0 no.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes: Greene, yes

Mrs. Greene commented that the MHPC should request a Planning Board Liaison be appointed to the MHPC.

2003 Ornaments: In Mr. Nichols absence, the secretary reported that the ornaments are in and thanked Ms. Kennedy for writing the insert. The ornaments will be sold at the Town Hall and Mahwah Sunoco.

Historic Plaque: Mrs. Drago will ask Mr. Gioni to write the script for the plaques.

Quackenbush Barn: No report at this time.

Public Relations: The secretary reported that a press release announcing the sale of the 2003 ornament went to the local newspapers.

Moffatt Road Cemetary: No report at this time.

Mahwah Museum: No report at this time.

Historic Survey: Mr. McCabe and Mrs. Kolva present to the Commission a copy of the updated Township of Mahwah Historic Sites Listing Survey inventory that McCabe and Associates completed. The survey was part of the CLG Grant which included the original 22 historic sites and an additional 200 sites of which the majority are in the Cragmere section of Mahwah. The Commission thanked Mr. McCabe and Mrs. Kolva for a job well done. Mrs. Drago commented that this survey is the first half of the proprosed CLG Grant. However, the second year of the Grant was eliminated and the MHPC is requesting the funds to complete this project in the MHPC’s 2004 budget.

GENERAL DISCUSSION:

Mrs. Greene reported that the Darlington School House lost its Bergen County Open Space $350,000.00 Grant to the ASPET Grants, which awards grants to individual historic projects. Mrs. Greene assured the Commission that the funds will again be available to the Darlington School House.

Mrs. Greene asked the Commission if they would support a letter to the Township Council requesting that the Township consider purchasing the Darlington School House.

Let the minutes reflect that Mr. Vasiliadis made a motion to authorize Mrs. Greene to write a letter to the Council requesting that the Township purchase the Darlington School House and Ms. Kennedy seconded the motion. The motion was approved with a vote of 6 yes and 0 no.

Kennedy, yes: Bristow, yes: Cerullo, yes: Vasiliadis, yes: Drago, yes: Greene, yes

Mrs. Greene reported that the Ramapo Reformed Church gravestones are in need of repair and asked the Commission for the address of the gravestone restoration contractor who restored the Moffatt Road stones. Mrs. Drago will give Mrs. Greene the address.

Mr. Cerullo made a motion to adjourn the meeting and Mr. Bristow seconded the motion. All approved. The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 p.m.

These minutes are a synopsis of the MHPC tapes, which are on file at the Township Hall.

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